Monday, June 24, 2013

1472. UPDATE: Red-eared slider with loose skin folds

A red-eared slider has loose skin folds   
Dr Sing Kong Yuen, BVMS (Glasgow), MRCVS
Date:   24 June, 2013  
                   

  




























EMAIL FROM DR SING DATED JUN 19, 2013
Subject: Red-eared slider, male 8 years old, on Jun 19, 2013

Images of your red-eared slider are attached.
Pl accept my condolences


EMAIL TO DR SING DATED JUN 20, 2013
11:22 AM,...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much Doc, appreciate it!
>
> Regards,
> R..
>

EMAIL FROM DR SING DATED JUN 23, 2013


Pl come to collect the urn. 

Pl let me know more information as your terrapin of 8 years of age looked in excellent condition and was presented with great difficulty in breathing and cyanotic tongue and passed away soon after arrival.
.
1. How long has the terrapin not been eating? Was it soon after changing to the new shrimp brand 2 months ago?

2. When did those large swelling of the skin appear? They looked like edematous folds and if so, would be a result of liver, heart or kidney failure.
3. Pl bring along the shrimp food tub and the older one so that I can find out what food was fed and origin of source of production.



4. Is your terrapin housing  a large water tank with filter and pump?



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On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:50 AM, ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Doc,
>

>
> My replies in blue:
>
>
> 1. How long has the terrapin not been eating? Was it soon after changing to
> the new shrimp brand 2 months ago?

> We changed to the new brand 1 month ago and it was still eating quite
> normally. And then it stopped eating for about 10 days, with very minimal
> appetite and small bites in between, and eventually the last 2 few days not
> being able to eat anything at all.
>
>
2. When did those large swelling of the skin appear? They looked like
> edematous folds and if so, would be a result of liver, heart or kidney
> failure.

> The swelling appeared in the time after it started to stop eating. Activity
> is reduced. My mother also noticed at one time its shell top was swollen too
> i.e. turned 'taller'. 

2 days later the shell returned to normal but the body
> swelling remained, and physical activity greatly reduced, seemingly to have
> no strength in limbs to support and walk. A day later, it turned really bad
> and that was the night when we called you.
>
>
3. Pl bring along the shrimp food tub and the older one so that I can find
> out what food was fed and origin of source of production.

> - Old one: do not have the tubs anymore, photos attached.

> Past brands:
> 1. http://inch-gold.com/page.asp?channel=Large-Arowana&productid=235
> 2. http://harvest-fish.com/navigation_fish_food/shrimp_tubifex.html 
> There were other brands it tried before too, and none gave any problem.
>
> Fed a few tubs of every brand before and it loves this, until this latest
> one. Understand they are not tortoise feed but we tried feeding it with
> pellets and vegetable before but it just didn't like anything else other
> than those dried shrimps, and since those dried shrimps seem to be pretty
> nutritious enough for him to grow over the years, we never changed its food
> options.
>
> - New one: will bring it along when I go to the clinic, meanwhile photos as
> attached too.



> Item can be found here

> AQUAFIN SHRIMP-E, 3rd from bottom.
http://www.kwzone.com/products/fish%20food/AF%20Shrimp-E.jpg

> This new one was given to the tortoise over the Vesak weekend in May, about
> 25-26 May.




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UPDATE JUN 25, 2013
Thank you for detailed reply to enlighten me about the possible cause of death.  It seems your pet knows what was wrong but being hungry, had to eat the food.
Most likely, there were a combination of certain ingredients inside the new food  causing her shell to swell, bloat and have fluid under her skin. 

Best wishes. 



Updates will be on this webpage:
http://www.sinpets.com/F5/20130624oedema_trerrapin.htm
 
 








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