1398. Domitor +
Ketamine Anaesthesia
for spay duration +
KPI
Feb 27, 2013 I
spayed a 7-month-old
Maltese X., 4.3 kg.
The happy couple
took leave and made
an appointment with
me. Usually spays
are done by Dr
Daniel as they are
routine surgeries.
This dog had been
vigorously licking
her vulval lips such
that the area above
the vulva became
black. "Much less
licking after
antibiotics last
month," the lady in
her late 20s said to
me. I had advised
spaying as there
could be pyometra
which leaked out
vaginal discharge
causing the need to
lick. It could be a
urinary tract
infection too. The
dog was on heat with
uterine horns and
ovaries very red and
congested when I
spayed her.
ANAESTHESIA
Based on formula of
10 kg, young healthy
dog Dom=0.4 and Ket=0.5,
I gave this 4.3 kg
dog IV Dom=0.2 + Ket
= 0.17 totalling
0.37 ml IV one
syringe with 0.13 ml
Hartmann.
A: Injection of D+K
IV 10.22 am
B: Isoflurane first
given 10.43 am
C: Isoflurane
stopped 10.53 am
D: First skin
incision: 10.34 am
E: Completion of
skin stitching:
11.01 am.
E-A = 39
minutes.
Thisis because
the dog started
moving at 10.43 am (21
minutes
after injecton)
and the surgery was
paused to give gas
by mask to stabilise.
This shows that
duration of D + K is
21 minutes for this
dog. Spay should be
completed in 21
minutes but there
was some delay as
there was training
of the new
veterinary staff on
gas anaesthesia.
Without traiining,
spay should be
completed in 30
minutes for this
small breed.
E-D= 27
minutes. Dog
was on heat. More
time was spent
ensuring no bleeding
and on speed on
hooking out the
ovaries.
Hooking left ovary
took 3 trials and it
was hooked out at
10.38 am. 4 minutes
after
incision. Right
ovary was hooked out
at 10.42 am, 8
minutes after skin
incision.
Conclusion: Usually
the above formula
gives at least 20
minutes of
surgical
anaesthesia. If spay
takes longer,
isoflurane top up is
needed. Efficiency
and timing are
important in
productivity of a
vet surgeon. Taking
too long to spay a
dog is not good.
Conclusion:
Much time was wasted
between first skin
incision and
injection (D-A=12
minutes) as I
was teaching a new
assistant since Mr
Min was poached. He
had worked 2 years
for me and I wished
him well as he ought
to move on for a
better future and
more income. Surgery
should commence
around 7 minutes
around injection as
IV effects would
occur in 5 minutes
usually. Check
reflexes for
surgical anaesthesia
like eyelid
blinking. 5 minutes
extra off the E-D
process would mean
that I would take
22 minutes and
would not need
isoflurane top up.
The planning and
proper prompt
process is essential
in veterinary
surgery procedures
and process and in
less wastage of
resources.
Feb 27, 2013 - I phoned the busy gentleman owner of the cat with the bladder stones as I was reviewing the past few days' cases. All cases done by associate vets and be me are reviewed by me as much can be learned from cases done. But this takes a lot of time and time is not much when there are many other things to do.
"My cat is back to as good as normal," he said that the cat was jumping and his stools and urine were normal. He had told me the day before that the cat drank less. I explained that the cat was fed canned K/D diet and canned food has a lot of water.
"Does he eat on his own?" I asked this important question. "He eats a bit and does not mind spoon-feeding by my maid." This was a moment of great joy to know that a surgical patient who was having kidney disease based on blood test by Vet 2 had recovered almost fully. The stitched bladder with a 8-mm cut by me to extract the 8-mm diameter stone must have healed well, otherwise this cat would be dead.
Follow ups are much appreciated and great learning lessons for any vet but we seldom have much time to do it. It creates an excellent customer service experience.
This owner loves his grandmother as he did bring her to take the cat home the day after surgery. Grandmothers are most loved as they usually spend most time with the grand children while the parents are out working and surviving in the corporate jungle. His grandmother was over 80 years old and her mind was sharp and alert.
"Remember the S/D can of food given by Vet 2?" I asked the owner. "It may not be useful as the cat's urinary pH is acidic at pH=5.0. That means that the bladder stones are unlikely to be struvites as S/D is for prevention and dissolution of struvite stones. Most likely, they are calciuum oxalate stones but we have to wait for the results of the stone analysis."
This info was obtained when I collected urine before opening up the bladder for stone removal. It is important that the vet performs this procedure as it may not be possible to collect urine from an angry non-sedated cat earlier. That could be one reason Vet 2 did not do a urine analysis and just prescribed S/D of one can. It is best to practise evidence-based medicine by doing urine analysis. In this case, there were no crystals in the urine.
A 4th year vet student from the top Portugal Vet University was with me and I asked Catarina Mateu : "No crystals in the urine test means no bladder stones. Many vets will come to this conclusion. What about you?" "Yes," she replied. "I also think this way." She will be making a video for me.
1399. Identification of
patient and operation area
Monday, Feb 25, 2013 was
an eventful day for me. I
had a facial lump of
1x0.5x0.5 cm cut off by
Prof Foo C L from the
Singapore General
Hospital. He thought it
was just a scratch tumour
as I scratched it to try
to get rid of it but it
persisted. Sometimes,
scratching causes a
reaction and the pimple or
inflammatory lump
disappears. But this lump
persisted and increased in
size.
"How long has it been
present?" he asked as I
was on the operating
table. "Months," I
replied. After seeing this
good-natured Syrian
hamster with a malignant
tumour excised at Toa
Payoh Vets recently, I
decided to get my skin
lump on my face excised
and checked for cancer.
"Will local anaesthesia be
painful?" I asked Dr Foo.
"Only during injection,"
he said. He injected 3
areas but the pain was
only a small ant bite. I
guessed he had perfused
the skin immediately on
injection and the
anaesthetic had numbed the
area. He made a blue
elliptical marker
pen area and
excised it. Marking the
area to be excised is a
good practice even for
vets but not all vets do
it.
The SGH also has a good
practice of verifying the
patient's identity and
operation site. I was
asked my name and identity
card number at various
points of admission on the
day of surgery, outside
the operating room and
inside the operating room.
This practice ensures that
the right patient is being
operated on. I got asked
which area was to be
operated. This ensured
that no mistakes will be
made, e.g. operating on
the wrong side of the
face. Such mistakes have
been made in human surgery
with horror stories of the
wrong foot amputated.
For veterinary surgery,
the patient can't
communicate with us. The
owner sometimes give
incorrect information. For
example, a rabbit or cat
may be male but the owner
says it is female.
Trusting the owner who
says her pet is female
means just spaying the
pet. The abdominal area
will be shaved and the
incision made. No uterus
will be found after some
time. The vet thinks that
the pet had been spayed or
worst of all, discovers it
is a male.
It is the responsibility
of the operating vet to do
a full examination
including the gender of
the pet to be sterilised.
Owners are trusted
implicitly but some of
them don't really know.
Pets don't talk to vets
and so mistakes have been
and can be made by vets in
operating on the wrong
site.
As for my surgery, Dr Foo
said general anaesthesia
was unnecessary to remove
my facial skin lump.
"There is always a risk of
death," he said. "You may
be the unlucky millionth
person to die under
anaesthesia. Local
anaesthesia will do. It
takes around one hour in
all."
So, I was strapped on the
narrow operating table to
prevent me falling off.
Swabs covered my eyes to
shield them from the 3
bright operating lights. I
could not feel the cutting
as the area was numbed by
the local. Dr Foo had
asked whether I felt any
pain before excising. This
is one part which vet
surgeons can't get
feedback from the animal
patient under local
anaesthesia. "6/0 vicryl
and 4/0 ethicon," he said
to the nurse. The wound
was closed well
subcuticularly by 6/0 but
he stitched up the skin
with 4/0 in case of stitch
breakdown. This 2-row
stitching could be the
secret of success in a
plastic surgeon in getting
a small scar. I got some
antibiotic ointment which
I didn't use. I asked for
plaster to cover my facial
wound with a few stitches
so that crowds would not
stare at me when I
attended Cliff Richard's
concert in the evening at
Marina Bay Sands Grand
Theatre.
In any case, Cliff Richard
who is 72 years old, gave
such an energetic
3-hour-long performance
that would put a younger
singer to shame. His jokes
were appreciated and the
audience left much
satisfied. One commented
that he did not sing
"Bachelor's Boy." I was
waiting for him to sing
"Fall In Love With You",
but was disappointed. This
was a song I heard at the
25th Baba & Nonya
Anniversary in Malacca
last year. I got a short
video done. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G48MbWTu8c
Dr Foo sent my facial lump
was sent for histology. It
looked white and
elliptical in the formalin
bottle. There were some
fine hairs of around 3 mm
long on the skin of this
lump as commented by Dr
Foo. "Don't read too much
into it," he said to me. I
do not know why he
commented on the presence
of these fine hairs.
As for the Syrian hamster
operated on Valentine's
day, the fair lady owner
brought the 2-year-old
hamster to consult me 11
days after surgery. There
were large reddish skin
nodules on the body, under
the armpits and on the
left thigh. They were
around 4 mm x 4 mm raised
skin rashes. Could they be
due to the "anti-mite"
spray the young lady was
spraying to "kill the skin
mites"? She had diagnosed
hair loss and brought the
spray from the pet shop.
"Your hamster has a
malignant skin tumour," I
showed her the histology
report which I had paid
for since she did not want
histology. "It is possible
that these red lumps are
the spread of the skin
cancer which was 2.5 cm in
diameter. I gave her the
photo of the lump sent by
the laboratory.
"Should I continue the
spraying of the skin?" she
asked me. "No," I said.
"This hair loss of the
hamster could be due to
other reasons and not
mites." A hamster with a
large skin tumour could be
scratching himself a lot
and hair loss would be
expected due to trauma.
"Let the Syrian hamster
enjoy his life since he is
2 years old and their
lifespan around 3 years,"
I told her that the rashes
could be either irritation
of the spray or spread of
the cancer. She was to
give medication for 7 days
and if he nodules
disappear, it would be due
to irritation.
"I adopted him from the
SPCA," she said to me. "He
is such a gentle hamster
and does not bite me
unlike some hamsters."
"Yes, he is very
good-natured," I said. "He
does not bite me too." Dr
Daniel who had operated on
him came by and had the
stitches taken out.
Stitches can be taken out
on the 11th day with no
problem of the skin
breaking down. The wound
had healed. Time will tell
whether the skin cancer
had spread. There was a
black pigmented spot on
the further back before
the left hip area. It was
not present before. So it
is hard to say whether
this was cancerous. I did
not advise removal as
there was not much skin
and there was economics to
consider.
ANAESTHESIA
Based on formula of 10 kg, young healthy dog Dom=0.4 and Ket=0.5, I gave this 4.3 kg dog IV Dom=0.2 + Ket = 0.17 totalling 0.37 ml IV one syringe with 0.13 ml Hartmann.
A: Injection of D+K IV 10.22 am B: Isoflurane first given 10.43 am C: Isoflurane stopped 10.53 am D: First skin incision: 10.34 am E: Completion of skin stitching: 11.01 am.
E-A = 39 minutes. Thisis because the dog started moving at 10.43 am (21 minutes after injecton)and the surgery was paused to give gas by mask to stabilise. This shows that duration of D + K is 21 minutes for this dog. Spay should be completed in 21 minutes but there was some delay as there was training of the new veterinary staff on gas anaesthesia. Without traiining, spay should be completed in 30 minutes for this small breed.
E-D= 27 minutes. Dog was on heat. More time was spent ensuring no bleeding and on speed on hooking out the ovaries. Hooking left ovary took 3 trials and it was hooked out at 10.38 am. 4 minutes after incision. Right ovary was hooked out at 10.42 am, 8 minutes after skin incision.
Conclusion: Usually the above formula gives at least 20 minutes of surgical anaesthesia. If spay takes longer, isoflurane top up is needed. Efficiency and timing are important in productivity of a vet surgeon. Taking too long to spay a dog is not good.
It is very difficult
to diagnose based on
emails as what you
write may not be what
I think as regards
"dead space." The
"success of surgery"
is not a guarantee in
any surgery as there
are many risks and
complications involved
especially in an older
patient with poor
health. Old age and
poor health delay in
wound healing in
people as well as in
animals.
Pl understand that
some old aged patient
undergoing surgeries
have post-operation
complications like
bleeding and
infections especially
when the dog was not
in good health (e.g
old age, cancer, delay
in seeking treatment,
spreading of cancerous
cells).
I will advise you
bringing the dog to me
or your vet for
examination and
treatment of the
post-operation
complications in your
older dog which nearly
did not survive the
general anaesthesia
during the amputation
of the cancerous leg.
Best wishes.
EMAIL TO DR SING
DATED FEB 26, 2013
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at
2:31 PM, S@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
By the way, I
read that with
that dead
space the
dog's wound
will heal much
slower. Does
this mean that
the surgery
was not
successful?
What can be
done to
increase the
healing
process?
Subject:
Re: X-rays
and blood
test
report for
xxx (Appt
15 Feb
2013,
9.30am)
Hi,
There seems to
be a dead
space as
liquid keeps
flowing out of
the wound. I
have cleaned
the dog's
wound and
squeezed out
the liquid in
his leg. Other
then that his
wounds seems
fine.
Subject: Re: X-rays and blood test report for bobby (Appt 15 Feb 2013, 9.30am)
How is the dog now? Is his wound healing well?
BACKGROUND OF CASE
An old dog with a
non-healing
ulcerated skin
wound on the left
hind leg. Vet 1
diagnosed skin
cancer. Vet 2 did
an X-ray and skin
biopsy and advised
leg amputation but
did not do it. The
biopsy showed
squamous cell
carcinoma. The
X-ray showed bone
involvement around
the hock area. The
owner consulted
me.
I
am S... I made an appointment for 15 Feb 2013 at 9.30am for my dog to
undergo surgery to amputate his leg due to cancer. I have attached the
relevant information to this email for your reference.
Thanks.
The dog was
operated at Toa
Payoh Vets and I
followed up on Feb
25, 2013, around
10 days after the
amputation of the
left hind leg
above the knee
joint by Dr Daniel
of Toa Payoh Vets.
It was a very high
anaesthetic risk
case as the dog
was not in good
health.
Cat owner with bladder stones didn't phone me yesterday. Today Tue Feb 26, he phoned to report progress.
"My cat is drinking less, otherwise he is ok. No puking. I run out of K/D diet. Shall I feed him the S/D can (given by Vet 2?). "As his bladder stone is still being analysed, no point feeding the S/D unless he has struvite stones," I advised. He will buy more K/D for the time being. K/D is given because of renal impairment accordin to the Vet 2's blood test..